1. Here’s a quote from Alan Sabrosky writing on Mondoweiss. If Phil Tourney, Mark Glenn or Joe Cortina said this, they’d get the usual slurs hurled their way. Red highlights are mine.
I find it both surprising (a little) and disturbing (a lot) when I look at the Middle East to realize that an awful lot of American Jews do not think of themselves as Americans who happen to be Jewish, but as Jews who happen to be living in America, and that as de facto unregistered agents of a foreign government they have caused enormous damage to America at home and abroad, and brought an enormous amount of death and suffering to a lot of people across the region who simply happened to be in Israel’s way.
2. I think those who focus on this article in Haaretz on Netanyahoo’s calling Emmanuel and Axelrod “self hating Jews” are missing the point. The article, if it is accurate, portrays Netanyahoo as a complete incompetent unable to govern and whose cabinet and staff are filled with people who – and I don’t blame them – hate each other. Israel is now being run by absolute total wackos who make the Ayatollahs look like the authors of the Federalist Papers.
3. The Anonymous Arabist has had some great posts lately. In this one, we get a very good run down of how dishonest MEMRI is. All of you in the US Kne$$et who worship Israel should read that post. I also hope that Cofer Black doesn’t lose his head over this post which shows, once again, what a sick institution the CIA is. Blackwater just has to go.
In the al-’urwa al-wuthqa department, the Anonymous Arabista claws into the U$-I$real relationship and compares it to the US-Iraq relationship.
It also turns out that the transcript of the “Feeling the Hate” video that she put up has attracted the attention of “the Duke of Yehudah” who was in the video. He assures us that he is not a racist. Glad he cleared that up.
4. Cats really are stupid.
32 responses so far ↓
snarla // July 10, 2009 at 5:08 pm
The cat meant to do that!
mantiqaltayr // July 10, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Which proves my point.
5ds // July 11, 2009 at 1:21 pm
reading only the 3 words “self hating jews” i assumed nutnyahoo was manuevering the 2 zionists or deceiving others who pay attention to this blather. rahm e self hating? no. he strongly hates palestinians, arabs, muslims, any non believer in the entity and the special suffering of jews. axelrod is more discreet.
Freeman60 // July 12, 2009 at 3:43 am
It’s out!
The 2009 zionist source code book
Now you will know what zionut writers will be dishing away for American audience:
Article
http://www.newsweek.com/id/206105
Full Dcocument:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/206021
Salam
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Madame Butterfly // July 12, 2009 at 11:32 am
Yes, but who owns Newsweek? Isn’t it Jews? Consider that this publication is one of the most outstanding organs of Zionist propaganda. Why would they let the cat out of the bag? It doesn’t make sense.
It’s a bit like the Simon Wiesenthal Centre putting out a document proving there were no gas ovens.
mantiqaltayr // July 12, 2009 at 2:12 pm
I read the Newsweek piece and it makes selling the settlements look like selling soap. It presents the issue as purely one of PR strategy utterly divorced from issues pertaining to international law and human rights.
MT
Freeman60 // July 12, 2009 at 4:24 pm
NetenYaho already started taking up the advice today; no reason not to start negotiating peace right now anywhere with the Palestinians he says.
Of course the PA had the evert wakeful finfer-on-the-pulse genuis head-neogtiator Urikat (Life-is-Negotiations- Urikat, no less) on the ready for him: No negotiations without freezing the colonies. Waoow. …. That is a stand…
Salam
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Xanadu // July 12, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Some flaws in The Israel Project (TIP) 117-page document trying to “sell” the settlements to the American public/
Flaw 1:
“Asked about the document, TIP’s founder and president, Jennifer Laszlo-Mizrahi, told NEWSWEEK it was based on polling and work with focus groups and is used to formulate communications strategy. She said setting people straight about settlements is particularly important: “The idea that some have in Washington that unilaterally putting pressure on Israel to make concessions on settlements is going to lead to peace is unfortunately shortsighted.”
No one is going to buy any of this nonsense, so selling people this “soap” (Mantiq) isn’t going to work.
Note:
(a) Truth is apparently arrived at by “polling” and asking “focus groups” what they think. This is not the way to arrive at the truth on any given subject. You don’t arrive at the truth on Darwinism, for example, by “polling”, or asking focus groups if they think we could be descended from apes.
(b) “Setting people straight on settlements is particularly important.” Dear me! Notice the glib assumption that Mantiq, for example, needs to be “set straight” on settlements — that the he and his ilk are ssomehow completely misguided and need to be put right by a bunch of Zionist know-it-alls who have arrived at the “truth” by asking “focus groups” what they think!
(c) “Putting pressure on Israel to make concessions” is not going to lead to peace apparently. The mere use of the word “concessions” here is going to get people’s backs up. Any fool knows it is not a “concession” to give back stolen land in accordance with UN Resolution 242.
(d) The entire sentence in inverted commas above — “The idea that some have in Washington that unilaterally putting pressure on Israel to make concessions on settlements is going to lead to peace is unfortunately shortsighted” — is hardly a factual statement. It is merely a Zionist opinion.
The TIP document isn’t going to work. To convince people you need strong, persuasive arguments. There are none whatsoever here.
Xanadu // July 12, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Flaw Number 2:
Here is the TIP document’s STRONGEST argument for settlements. Consider it carefully. It is quite superficially quite good.
In the report, Luntz describes the “best settlement argument” as one that draws a parallel between the Arab communities in Israel and the Jewish settlers in the West Bank—and refers to the idea of evacuating Jews as racist. “The idea that anywhere that you have Palestinians there can’t be any Jews, that some areas have to be Jew-free, is a racist idea,” he suggests saying. “We don’t say that we have to cleanse out Arabs from Israel. They are citizens of Israel. They enjoy equal rights. We cannot see why it is that peace requires that any Palestinian area would require a kind of ethnic cleansing to remove all Jews. We don’t accept it. Cleansing by either side against either side is unacceptable.”
What is wrong with this argument?
(1) If you accept the logic that it is “racist” to ethnically cleanse Jews from Arab areas, as it is to cleanse Arabs from Jewish areas, then the logical outcome of this argument is the One State Solution.
(I hope Mantiq and Freeman60 will agree with this assessment).
(2) Furthermore, if we are to have “equal rights” for Jews and Arabs—as the TIP document advocates—then it follows that as long as Jews from the diaspora have a “right” to make aliyah, so too the Palestinian diaspora must have the “right to return.”
My conclusion:
It would seem that the document’s STRONGEST argument leads to a reductio ad absurdum which is hardly likely to please Mr Jabotinsky! — i.e., a a One State Solution in which the Right to Return is universal, applying to Jew as well as Arab.
Freeman // July 13, 2009 at 9:25 am
“If you accept the logic that it is “racist” to ethnically cleanse Jews from Arab areas, as it is to cleanse Arabs from Jewish areas, then the logical outcome of this argument is the One State Solution.”
I fully agree, Xanadu.
If freedom, justice, human values and peace has anything to do with it, then there can be no other solution. This has been the original target of the Palestinian Liberation Movement “Fateh” and the PLO- up to the stage when both were irreversibly ‘domesticated’ within the PNA and turned into Zionist controllers of the Palestinian People.
Inevitable as it is and as it will be, still the One State Solution is the mother of all Zionist nightmares, and hence the new persistent calls by the Zionists for the recognition of Israel as a “Jewish State” as, now, THE condition for peace.
Somehow, I feel that the Zionists are gathering in their very last bastion- and this one, far from being a Masada, is made of flimsy glass and no amount of soap-selling techniques will help them out.
The concept of the “Jewish state” has to justify (away) to their American audience, in terms of human values, justice, peace and freedom, why more than 5 million Palestinians should lose their right to return to their homes as part of any future peaceful settlement of the Palestinian Question. There simply isn’t such a justification, and the zionuts know that very well- and this is when they start getting really dangerous, not only to Palestinians but to Americans as well and to the world at large.
The true face of Zionism will then be seen by all- at a huge cost, I am afraid, unless American and the rest of the freedom loving world stops that.
Salam
& Best Regards
Freeman // July 13, 2009 at 9:46 am
….and this is about antisemtic monkies’ show in Moscow’s Circus ….the “spirit’ of the article reminds of that stupid cat clip for some reason……
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3745700,00.html
Xanadu // July 13, 2009 at 4:37 pm
THE THREE STATE SOLUTION
Freeman,
It seems the Jews want neither the One State solution (end of Zionism) nor the Two State solution (end of Eretz-Israel). However, if push came to shove, I believe they would go for the Three State solution.
The Three State solution, known also as the “Jordanian Option”, is in a sense a misnomer. It doesn’t involve three new states, but three old ones: Israel, Egypt and Jordan.
According to this brilliant idea, the Palestinians get NO STATE AT ALL, but become part of Egypt or Jordan.
(1) Gaza gets absorbed into Egypt; the Gaza Palestinians then become, in effect, Egyptian citizens.
(2) The truncated West Bank (50 per cent of it already stolen by Israel) gets grafted onto Jordan, and the West Bank Palestinians then become Jordanian citizens.
Xanadu // July 13, 2009 at 4:43 pm
The advantages of the Three State solution:
1. There’s no longer any hassle about making a Palestinian state “viable”, or worrying about all those “Bantustans”. Israel gets to keep ALL the settlements.
2. Right of return? No problem. The Palestinian exiles are free to return to Greater Egypt or Greater Jordan! (Naturally, they can’t expect to return to ” Jewish” Israel.)
3. A nice, quiet, “humane” solution, infinitely preferable to genocide. (Or ethnic cleansing).
4. No need, moreover, to consult the Palestinians. They do what they’re told. They become cast-offs for which Egypt and Jordan are now responsible.
Problem solved.
Xanadu // July 13, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Who backs the Three State Solution?
The Zionists, naturally!
John Bolton thinks it’s a great idea. Daniel Pipes is crazy about it. Sheldon Adelson is rooting for it. And it’s the Heritage Foundation’s pet project.
In the days ahead, you’ll be hearing more about the Three State solution.
Freeman // July 13, 2009 at 5:02 pm
A good and concise commentary the “Israel 2009″ dictionary shsh…..ugar.
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/6256
Salam
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Madame Butterfly // July 13, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Kol Nidrei, which means “All Vows” in Hebrew, is the famous prayer said by millions of Jews on the Day of Atonement.
Here it is for reference purposes:
“All vows, obligations, oaths or anathemas, pledges of all names, which we have vowed, sworn, devoted or bound ourselves to, from this day of atonement until the next day of atonement — we repent aforehand of them all, they shall all be deemed absolved, forgiven, annulled, void and made of no effect; they shall not be binding, nor have any power; the vows shall not be reckoned vows, the obligations shall not be obligatory, nor the oaths considered as oaths.”
I’m thinking of learning this prayer by heart. That way, I won’t have to look it up every time I…..um, forget it…..sure what I was going to say…..
sijepuis // July 13, 2009 at 6:06 pm
But there will never be a “Three state solution”, in that Israel is absolutely dependent upon the water resources of the territories it has conquered and continues to occupy. Israel consumes four fifths of the West Bank’s aquifers, according to a recent World Bank survey, and an additional 20-30% of its total water supply comes from the occupied, Syrian Golan Heights.
Israel, with its wasteful, water-intensive, European style agriculture, is not about to relinquish an inch of occupied land to anyone.
Zionists claim that the 1967 war was due to threats from Arab neighbors. Bull.
Israel was proving itself to be a lousy, expansionist-hungry neighbor, and a trigger-issue for the war was bilateral water agreements with Syria and Jordan.
Should it come as any wonder that Israel invents reasons to invade Lebanon, with that luscious Litani river right there for their taking?
If anyone is ever to get the freaking Israelis off of the backs of local populations, not to mention the Palestinians, the regional issue of water needs to be accorded N°1 priority.
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Xanadu // July 13, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Sijepuis // July 13, 2009 at 6:06 pm
But there will never be a “Three state solution”. . .
I don’t necessarily disagree with you. I did say “if push came to shove.” In the desperate effort to wiggle out of a Two State solution, Zionists like John Bolton and Daniel Pipes are now touting the Three State solution.
Maybe it’s just another delaying tactic.
Xanadu // July 13, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Things are getting desperate for the Jews. They know the game is up. That the status quo cannot continue. There is now a schism, a split, a divergence of views between Israeli Jews and the elite Jews in America. It’s the elite American Jews who are behind Obama’s drive to give the Palestinians a state. Why? Because they would rather lose some land in Palestine than lose the whole world.
My next quote from a seminal article by Hesham Tillawi will make this clear. Read it carefully and you will understand that elite international Jewry feel the need to “sacrifice” land in Palestine in order to hang on to their power in the Western world — which would otherwise be in jeopardy.
Xanadu // July 13, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Hesham Tillawi quote:
“Jews in the US and around the world have realized the “existential threat” Israel poses to worldwide Jewry as a result of its behavior. Powerful Jewish interests on the left and the Right know what “the Lobby” in Washington is doing must be stopped at least temporarily until they can regroup and the world fall back asleep. More and more people in the USA are learning from the likes of Mearsheimer and Walt rather than from Fox and CNN, and those leaders know it is only a matter of time before the masses in the US start (rightly or wrongly) to better understand the realities of how their political and economic systems truly function and turn against Jewish interests in the USA. The Jewish people–as smart as they are–are trying now to change the course of history by accepting the fact that the dream of greater Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates must be abandoned–for the moment.”
Xanadu // July 13, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Meanwhile, in Israel, we have all altogether different type of fanatic such as the Rabbi Manis Friedman. Such Jews are now proving an embarrassment to the sophisticated Jewish elite in America.
Recently asked in an interview, “How should Jews Treat Their Arab Neighbors?” Rabbi Friedman came out with these shocking words:
“I don’t believe in western morality, i.e. [in commandments like] don’t kill civilians or children, don’t destroy holy sites, don’t fight during holiday seasons, don’t bomb cemeteries, don’t shoot until they shoot first because it is immoral. The only way to fight a moral war is the Jewish way: Destroy their holy sites! Kill men, women and children! The first Israeli prime minister who declares that he will follow the Old Testament will finally bring peace to the Middle East.”
Xanadu // July 13, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Tillawi’s arguments appear to be irrefutable:
“By settling the Palestinian Israeli issue under the two states solution Israel is contained and transformed into a manageable beast. In other words what Obama is doing falls squarely within the interest of Israel in particular and the Jewish people in general.
Make no mistake about it, Obama will not “bravely and courageously” go against the Jewish community in the United States… [against] AIPAC, ADL, JDL, JINSA. These organizations understand that it is only a matter of time before the story of the Holocaust, which was a major stepping stone in the creation of Israel, is exposed, and in turn leads to the loss of its legitimacy in the eyes of the World. A huge embarrassment to all Jews and western governments in the World.
Now you understand why Israel and the Jewish community would fight tooth and nail to protect the sanctity of their Holocaust narrative” — a war they know they cannot win.
http://heshamtillawi.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/obama-the-second-coming-of-moses-exodus-preparations/
mantiqaltayr // July 13, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Hi folks,
I’m swamped and traveling right now and just don’t have the time to do the sort of posting I’d like to do. I’m glad you all are doing what you are doing.
I think something else is going on and will try to post about it over the next couple of weeks. Before that, updates will be small ones.
As for the “three state solution” that was Kahane’s solution years ago and in fact a number of Israeli politicians floated that idea as did Israeli firsters in the US. It is nothing new. I heard Kahane himself, on NPR no less, advocate turning Jordan into a Palestinian state.
Right now the Zionists as a whole are a little, but only a little, worried. So they are doing what they always do – joining every side of the issue. That way they control it. Don’t be fooled by J Street and don’t be fooled by any of these guys. Anyone who supports Zionism and “Israel’s right to exist” is anti US.
MT
Madame Butterfly // July 14, 2009 at 7:34 am
Don’t be fooled by J Street and don’t be fooled by any of these guys. Anyone who supports Zionism and “Israel’s right to exist” is anti US.
Hold on, Mantiq! The Palestinians just aren’t “cooperating” enough! Don’t you think it’s time they got their act together and wiped the Jewish spit from their faces in a nice, cooperative way?
Netanyahu: Palestinians could achieve more if they cooperated
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1099873.html
sijepuis // July 14, 2009 at 8:46 am
Right now the Zionists as a whole are a little, but only a little, worried. So they are doing what they always do – joining every side of the issue. That way they control it.
The strategy, of course [I'm sure you've been through this a thousand times], is delay, delay, delay.
The delay, delay, delay [ie, expropriate] plan is joined by distortion of language, language, language [heavily assisted by world media] …
In fact, there are a few words that need to be struck from a healthy person’s vocabulary:
‘Anti-Semitism’ [that must be the true Hasbara prize winner, creating an iron-clad association between world jewry and a linguistic group that just so happens to inhabit the Coveted Land]. The more appropriate term for anti-ethnic sentiment is ‘bigotry’.
‘Holocaust’. A full half of the estimated 48,231,700 deaths in WWII was Soviet. One in seven inhabitants of the Soviet union was killed. Ten million Chinese perished. A mere 20 years previously, over 21 million lives were extinguished in WWI.
– Right, so, I think a more general term for 30 years of unprecedented massacre is ‘Insanity’, but more specifically could be called … well I thought it could be referred to as a ‘Pogrom’, but apparently the term has been hijacked by the Hasbara brigade, as well. Well, what do *you* suggest?
The term ’settlements’ is a unique bell-ringer. More appropriate, if awqward, might be ‘Theftlements’.
… et ainsi de suite.
We also have, increasingly, ideological megaphonies, megaphonies, megaphonies, who are now being funded by both Israel and the US, to work mind-control miracles on the riff-raff of the likes that posts here ; )
Somehow, I don’t see the ‘delay’, ‘language’, ‘megaphony’ operations as being indications of ’slight worry’ but rather of an ever-increasing, major concern. As usual it’s a question of PR and image, for Israel, but in its eternal arrogance Israel has just shot itself in the foot with its response to the ‘Spirit of Humanity’ and ‘Viva Palestina’, currently blocked in Egypt.
Despite its every efforts, Israel is losing an 80 year long, bloody war for recognition as a ‘Jewish State’, and Israeli officials are the first to know it.
Freeman // July 14, 2009 at 10:20 am
Yes! The Palestinians are not cooperating enough!
“Triple track”: Economic, Security and Political, says Mr. Netanyahu!!
Economic?
Get the EU, the Americans the Japanese the Oil Arabs and just about everyone else to invest more and more in the Palestinian “Territories” so that increased “prosperity” will lead to “progress” on the other two more important tracks for him.
However, the First and second Intifida experiences and the Gaza massacre, when years of economic progress where completely destroyed in days if not in hours, has shown that all of this ‘economic progress’ will be easily crushed if Palestinians ‘misbehave’, which will leave them even more destitute and more dependent and more hopeless unless they relent fully to the Zionist vision of their future of a borderless, powerless, helpless, shapeless entity completely dependent on, and under the control of, Israel.
Security?
Training more PNA security forces by Egypt, Jordan, Britain, France and the CIA with the US footing the bill, simply in order to relieve the Israeli security forces from their occupation duties by enlarging and enhancing a completely domesticated PNA security apparatus so that operations previously undertaken by the IDF can be know left for the PNA forces. The recent Jenin fatal incidents are the shape of things to come.
Again, as previous experience (in Jericho, when the PA forces were forced out of their duties in their underwear) shows, if Palestinians misbehave, all of that can be wiped out in no time at all, again, leaving the Palestinians even more vulnerable than before.
Political?
If he can get the Economic and the Security Tracks going then, yes, that’s the fun part!
Eating home made homos and kebab and dolma and sambosek and drinking minted tea during endless meetings with Palestinian ‘leaders’ and ‘negotiators’ for the next 20 years while more and more land is being grabbed and more colonies are springing up to strangle what is left of the Palestinian communities living under the complete control of the “jewish state”
In the meantime, what about:
Gaza?
Where’s that? What’s that? Who cares!
Jerusalem?
Ah! Yorashalayem, as the new Israeli Transport minister has recently decreed to call it, in ARABIC!
Refugees?
Ummmm, what refugees?
Borders?
Everyone will be sitting so happy with the ‘progress’ on the political track as a result of the progress on the ‘economic’ and ‘security’ tracks that this matter, actually, will not be an issue anymore!
Salam
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Greg Bacon // July 14, 2009 at 3:55 pm
A high-ranking white supremacist on the run from US federal authorities was arrested on Monday night in a south Tel Aviv hideout.
33-year-old Micky Louis Mayon, one of America’s 100 most wanted criminals, and a member of the Ku Klux Klan, was arrested in a Florentine apartment by the National Immigration Authority’s newly formed Oz enforcement unit.
Mayon is wanted in the US on charges of racist assaults, setting fire to vehicles belonging to federal agents, and a host of violent incidents.
The Oz unit was acting on intelligence relayed by Interpol, which informed authorities in Israel that Mayon had entered Israel illegally.
He is said to have often moved apartments in order to evade police, but his efforts proved fruitless on Monday when a delicate operation by the Oz unit saw officers break into his hideout and arrest him.
Oz unit members have the powers of a police officer but can only use them in cases of illegal entry into the country.
Mayon was the subject of an American arrest operation in November 2007, but officers soon realized he had flown to Israel on a one-way ticket. Earlier that year, he reportedly fired his gun in the air repeatedly after being involved in an argument with an African-American. US authorities have described him as a dangerous fugitive.
Oz Unit head Tziki Sela said Mayon was surprised to be arrested, but cooperated with the officers. He has been transferred to a Holon jail facility, where he underwent an immigration hearing. He was then taken to an Israel Prisons Service jail facility.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1246443798661&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
Think he felt right at home? Wonder what gave him away or did he run out of bribe money?
mantiqaltayr // July 14, 2009 at 8:37 pm
“A high-ranking white supremacist on the run from US federal authorities was arrested on Monday night in a south Tel Aviv hideout.”
Gee, think there might be more to this story?
I don’t know this creep’s religion or ethnic background (yet) but it would be most interesting to find out if he belongs to the tribe. BTW, Israel has gotten a bit better about its extradition policies in part due to the serious crimes that have been committed by people who then flee there. Go to falsemessiah.com to see the pedophiles that rush to the “Jewish State” (why would a racist not be welcome there?) and you’ll see that occasionally they can get deported – if the stars of David align properly.
So much to post about.
MT
Freeman // July 15, 2009 at 3:30 am
“Feel the Hate II”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze5dbxPO8cU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fdesertpeace%2Ewordpress%2Ecom%2F&feature=player_embedded
Salam
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Freeman // July 15, 2009 at 4:08 am
ALL in One Day’s Jewish State News …..
An Arab Bedouin in Beersheba was shot dead and another was placed in intensive care when a Jewish colonist shot them with an unlicensed weapon because they were “wandering around the farm area”
What did the Jewish Citizen of Israel get for that?
He was acquitted (well, he was told off for not licensing his gun)
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1100361.html
Another Jewish colonist was caught on film shooting at two Palestinians in Hebron at close range.
What does the Jewish citizen of Israel get for that?
He does not even get prosecuted. Prosecuting him will compromise the state security, the Jewish Prosecutor says.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1100122.html
And, another bunch of IDF soldiers speak out about the “shoot first, shoot after, ..and never mind the questions!” policy of the IDF in Gaza War. The IDF spokeswoman of the Jewish Army decides that
“Most of the incidents relate to anonymous testimony lacking in identifying details, and accordingly it is not possible to check the allegations on an individual basis in a way that would enable an investigation, confirmation or refutation.”
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1100300.html
Jewish State, eh….?
Salam
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Madame Butterfly // July 15, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Heartbreaking. Rage churns my blood. Swished round with the Spoon of Impotence.
One day…..oh one day…..let them reap what they sow…..
mantiqaltayr // July 15, 2009 at 7:47 pm
These links just beg for Mantiqiyyan exposure. Thank you Freeman. Once travel is over and I have some time. I’m sure Abe Foxman has condemned all of this.
As we say here at Mantiq al-Tayr: So many traitors, so little time.