Ya Baba

1. Catholics around the world were re-energized and emboldened to speak out on issues ranging from abortion to human rights in the wake of Pope Benedict XVI’s speech at the Yad Vashem Memorial in Jerusalem on May 11, 2009.

Irish Cathlolic O’reilly O’really had this to say: “The fact that the Pope did not get down on his knees in tears begging the Israelis for forgiveness for his having been born in Germany and didn’t give Rabbi Yisrael Meir Lau a blow job has really lifted up our spirits here in Dublin” he said as he swizzled down another beer at Murphy’s pub.

Catholics in places as far away as Argentina echoed O’really’s sentiments. Juan Valdez, an unemployed laborer spoke with reporters at his home surrounded by his 15 children. “The fact that he stood up to international Zionism by refusing to kiss Knesset speaker Reuvin Rivlin’s ass on Israeli television has made me proud to be a Catholic again. I might even start going to a Catholic church. Maybe. I don’t know.”

Not surprisingly, many Israelis did not share this kind of enthusiasm concerning the Pope’s visit to Israel. In fact they were outraged at the following comments the Pope actually did make.

He said that the suffering of the Jews killed in World War II must “never be denied, belittled or forgotten.” He added

“They lost their lives, but they will never lose their names,” the Roman Catholic leader said in a quivering voice before clasping the hands of six Holocaust survivors at a haunting ceremony in the Hall of Remembrance. “These are indelibly etched in the hearts of their loved ones, their surviving fellow prisoners, and all those determined never to allow such an atrocity to disgrace mankind again.”

He went on to say:

“As we stand here in silence, their cry still echoes in our hearts,”

Wow. The tuyuur here in Mantiq al-Tayr were so inspired by this slap in the face to the racist Zionist Israeli government that we all went out and bought rosary beads and learned to say Hail Marys.  Unfortunately, you need opposable thumbs to use rosary beads properly, so we ended up making necklaces out of them and gave them to a home for stray cats. But again, I digress.

Not surprisingly, Israeli Jews were outraged at the Pope’s uppity behavior. Their anger was not even assuaged by the fact that a “haunting” ceremony right there at Yad Vashem as part of the Pope’s visit was held in which the Pope clasped the hands of six holocaust survivors and played rock-paper-scissors with them.  The Pope won and as a result was given the opportunity to continue giving boring speeches in Israel and the West Bank, which of course, is exactly what he then did.

Okay, I’m just kidding about the rock-paper-scissors thing. But he did get into the hand holding with the six holocaust survivors, each one symbolizing one million holocaust victims. You can read one version of that story here.  Of course, that version leaves out something. Not only did the Pope meet with the six survivors and with a “righteous gentile” (I think we are going to start referring to Alfred Lillianthal here as a “righteous Jew”) and hold hands and everything, but one of the six is indicted on corruption charges in the United States and had to turn in his US passport but was allowed out of the US for this special occasion. We hope he asked the Pope for forgiveness for this swindling of people in the United Sates and had to do some penance – maybe saying 1000 Hail Mary’s. We’ve still got some rosary beads left over if he needs them. His wife and children were allowed to go with him.  Did you even have to ask?

His name is Edward Mosberg.  According to this article he is only thought to have been engaged in bribery and fraud for TWENTY years and three others have already been convicted in the scheme.

This quote is from an absolute must read article about Mosberg.  “Mosberg remained overseas on Tuesday and was expected to return to the United States in about a week, his lawyer said.”

But once again, I digress.

Anyway, the Pope’s speech was not adequately suck-upy enough for the Israelis and he was pretty harshly criticized. Some of the comments made about the speech were pretty revealing. Howard Schneider, an obvious Islamofacist, wrote a negative article that appeared in the Jerusalem Washington New York Times Post and many other papers.

“The identity of the murderers went completely unmentioned,” Rabbi Yisrael Meir Lau, who heads the Yad Vashem Council, said in the daily Maariv.

“With all due respect to the Holy See, we cannot ignore the burden he bears,” Israeli parliament speaker Reuven Rivlin said on Israel Radio. He added that Benedict spoke “as if he were a historian, someone looking in from the sidelines.”

Israeli critics said the German-born pope missed an opportunity to express regret for his country’s central role in the extermination of 6 million Jews.

“You were not asked to do something unprecedented or heroic. All that was required from you was a brief, authoritative and touching sentence. All you had to do was to express regret. That’s all we wanted to hear,” wrote Hanoch Daum, a columnist for the Yedioth Ahronoth daily.

Not surprisingly, that great Israeli humanist Tom Segev, the one who advocates war crimes against the people of Gaza, just had to put in his two shekels worth.

He attempts to smear the entire leadership of the entire Catholic Church because the Pope didn’t grovel enough to his satisfaction. Red highlights are mine.

There is nothing easier than expressing real horror when talking about the Holocaust, than identifying with its suffering, pain and grief. If that is not done, it is a sign that there was a deliberate decision not to do so.

Segev even hints to the reader that his own criticism of the Pope is bogus when he writes:

Benedict is aware of the historical responsibility that rests on his shoulders as both a German and a Christian. He supports annulling the statute of limitations on prosecuting Nazi criminals in Germany and has visited Yad Vashem once before. On more than one occasion, he has expressed empathy for Jews and for Israel.

But since the demand for total submission to the demands of the holocaust has become so ingrained in the Israeli body politic, Segev goes on to bitch and moan as if he just can’t help it.

But the word the pope used is significant because someone in the Holy See decided to write “were killed” instead of “murdered” or “destroyed.” The impression is that the cardinals argued among themselves over whether Israelis “deserve” for the pope to say “were murdered” and decided they only deserve “were killed.” It sounded petty. Even the recurring use of the term “tragedy” seemed like an attempt to avoid saying the real thing.

The verbal stinginess Benedict displayed last night also diminishes the impact of anything he might say about Palestinian suffering. Had he said what he needed to on the Holocaust, he could have said more to condemn Israel’s systematic violation of the human rights of residents of the West Bank and Gaza.

The paragraph above is the real key. The holocaust, or rather slavish devotion to it at the expense of one’s dignity, is being used once again to ward off any criticism of the horrible crimes that continue to be committed by Israelis against the Palestinian people.  Unless you worship at the holocaust alter, you can’t say a word about the evil that is being perpetrated upon the Palestinians by the likes of guys like Segev – who no doubt sees himself as a good guy.

All this coming from a country that has an elected leader who advocates getting rid of the Palestinians and a foreign minister who is arguably even worse.

What’s a Pope to do?

2. The fact is that nothing can ever satisfy Israel’s lust for Holocaust worship so it wouldn’t have mattered what the Pope said; in the end the Tom Segevs of this world and the many who are far worse than he would still never be satiated and would continue to reject calls for true justice for the Palestinians. So there is no need for spiritual leaders, or anyone else, to grovel before the Holocaust in order to then be able to beg Israel to stop murdering Palestinians.  Sadly, there are few true spiritual leaders in this world and the Pope’s performances this past week highlight this fact in bold.

Therefore we here at Mantiq al-Tayr humbly offer the readers of this blog a text that the Pope might have read.

We are gathered today on this solemn occasion at Yad Vesham, a vital institution now four times its original size, in honor of those so brutally murdered and the millions more whose suffering can never be calculated but who managed to survive this terrible event, the Shoah, the Holocaust. All Catholics and no doubt all Christians around the world will never forget anything that they did or did not do that led to this horror.

We are also gathered here today to mourn the fact that out of the ashes of Europe at the end of World War II, the most horrible war ever fought on the face of the earth, the Holocaust emerged as a tool that for decades has been used to justify the very sorts of acts that we are gathered here today to condemn. The unspeakable horrors committed against European Jewry have given birth to further horrors in their own image. Unless we Christians and you Jews all acknowledge that we are fallen, that we are capable of and have committed and continue to commit horrible crimes against our fellow human beings, we are condemned to keep doing so forever more.

In that spirit, I call upon the people of Israel to cease their crimes against the Palestinian people, to withdraw from the lands they occupy and to live in peace with their Christian and Muslim neighbors, and to allow those displaced from their homes to return to them. I know this is hard, but it is time for us all to acknowledge that the Palestinians are as much a victim of the Holocaust as the Jews, for it is the Palestinians who have had to pay the price for generation upon generation of European anti-Semitism and imperialism. I call upon the entire world to participate in restoring the people of Palestine to health, we owe them more than we can ever repay and we owe it in the name of the Holocaust. The Catholic Church is prepared to do its part and I have ordered that it begin doing so immediately.

It is time for us all to come out of the shadows of hypocrisy, lying and deceit. Throughout the history of mankind we have only seen ourselves through a glass darkly, but now we must, as God is my witness, we must see one another face to face. I pledge to the rank and file of the Catholic Church and to the rest of mankind that this temporary custodian of the shoes of St. Peter will henceforth show you a more excellent way.

Ya Baba

17 Responses to Ya Baba

  1. Brilliantly done, Mantiq, and particularly the last paragraphs delineating what the Pope should have said were he a true spiritual leader and follower of Jesus Christ.

  2. Madame Butterfly

    In that spirit, I call upon the people of Israel to cease their crimes against the Palestinian people, to withdraw from the lands they occupy and to live in peace with their Christian and Muslim neighbors, and to allow those displaced from their homes to return to them. I know this is hard, but it is time for us all to acknowledge that the Palestinians are as much a victim of the Holocaust as the Jews, for it is the Palestinians who have had to pay the price for generation upon generation of European anti-Semitism and imperialism.

    On behalf of the Holy See, Mantiq, I hereby offer you the job of Pope’s Official Speech Writer! You will be paid $10,ooo per speech (in shekels if you prefer) and you must let the Vatican know your decision ASAP!

    If you accept this appointment, Mantiq, you will be expected to accompany the Pope to Israel on all further occasions, and I advise you to buy a bulletproof vest just to be on the safe side. Better still, invest all your earnings in a good armor-plated car for only $1 million which I shall be happy to supply you with as you’re such a brilliant writer…

    Let me know your decision, Mantiq, without further delay. Western civilization is depending on you.

    Yours cordially,

    Madame Butterfly.

  3. Mantiq, this is exceptionally good. Your satirical pen makes the Holy Father look like — what? A lily-livered coward who dare not speak his mind. Yet another world leader who trembles before the awesome power of world Jewry.

    One has to feel deeply sorry for the Holy Father.

    I have been trying to put in a good word for this wretched man on another website, because I think you have failed to appreciate, Mantiq, that the Pope is in a very delicate situation. A high degree of tact and diplomacy are called for.

    Why must the Pope watch his step carefully?

    Because all over the world there are defenceless nuns and priests who can be RAPED AND MURDERED by the agents of Mossad IF THE HOLY FATHER STEPS OUT OF LINE!

    You must have heard of the murder of Jesuit priests — the Liberation theologists —in South America, and of the rape of Catholic nuns. All the clergy are vulnerable. One tactless word by the Holy Father — and a Catholic school could be set on fire with a hundred children in it. If these psychopaths can do it in Gaza, Mantiq, they can do it anywhere.

    I put it to you, Mantiq: if the Pope were to speak his mind bravely, as you seem to expect him to do, thousands of Catholic clergy would be at risk of losing their lives.

  4. The Pope’s timid behavior can be explained in two words: emotional blackmail.

    The alternative explanation — that he is an unprincipled crypto-Jew and betrayer of the Catholic Church — seems to me unlikely.

    I think the Shepherd is scared his flock will suffer if he makes one false move. What does “one false move” mean? It means: failure to grovel.

  5. Lalara Pandora

    As a passionate antizionist, I can’t help feeling — like Mantiq and thousands of Catholics all over the world, including Mark Glenn — that the Pope’s behavior has been pretty disappointing. As a pragmatist and believer in Realpolitik, however, I have to agree with Xanadu that the Pope has no choice but to sound conciliatory and even obsequious to the Jews. After all, they hold all the aces. They have the whip hand over us.

    Hopefully, a time will come when the roles will be reversed.

    Meanwhile, and until then, a bit of diplomatic grovelling is perhaps the best policy — in the interests of survival.

  6. Madame Butterfly

    Xanadu:

    “I put it to you, Mantiq: if the Pope were to speak his mind bravely, as you seem to expect him to do, thousands of Catholic clergy would be at risk of losing their lives.”

    I think Xanadu has a point. The Pope doesn’t have an army or 200 nukes at his disposal. He can’t afford to give Israel shit. Or Israel would start bombing Catholic churches like they bomb mosques in Iraq right now, pretending it was Al Qaeda.

    Yes, Israel would send squads of its IDF goons rampaging round Europe and America — castrating monks, raping nuns, maiming Catholic schoolkids! — just as their way of taking their revenge against the hated Catholic Church!

    Yes sir, the Pope’s got to be damn careful how he speaks to the Jews!

    Grovel, grovel! — hey Bibi, just watch me touch my forelock! You want me to kiss your ass, just let me know!

  7. “I will ask the General Assembly to Strip Israel of its Membership”
    — Secretary General of UN, Ban Ki-Moon.

    This is unbelievable. I ask myself: can this be a practical joke of some kind? Here are excerpts from this electrifying speech which I’m sure will mean the end of Mr Ban Ki-Moon’s career:

    “Few people know that Israel is the only state to be given a conditional admission [to the United Nations]. Under General Assembly Resolution 273, Israel was admitted on the condition that it grant all Palestinians the right to return to their homes and receive compensation for lost or damaged property, according to General Assembly Resolution 194 paragraph 11. Suffice to say, Israel has never lived up to these terms, and never intended to.

    For 60 years Israel has violated its terms of admission, and for 60 years the UN has done nothing about it. It has watched as Israel heaped misery upon misery on Palestine, and violated international law with impunity.

    After “Operation Cast Lead,” no person, no country, no democracy can look at Israel without thinking of the inhuman slaughter and destruction committed by the axis powers in World War II, though one could have said the same about numerous past massacres. What atrocities might the world have been spared if the UN had refused to admit Israel 60 years ago?

    Of course, the immediate post war world was a different time. The world had just witnessed the horrors of Hitler’s racist excesses, and collective Western guilt for the Holocaust dictated attitudes toward the idea of Jewish state. Even the UN could not withstand the moral pressure.

    On Nov. 29, 1947, it passed General Assembly Resolution 181, “The Partition Plan,” to carve a Jewish state out of Arab Palestine. However, it was never ratified by the Security Council, and so does not exist in law, which means the UN played no role in the creation of Israel. Nevertheless, “The Partition Plan” was utterly illegal and a violation of the UN Charter, because the UN had no right or power to take land from one people and give it to another.

    If it hopes to play a meaningful role in the 21st century, the UN must do more than simply promise to enact reforms. It must search deep within its soul to redress the fundamental violations of its founding principles, which have long since ceased to have any force. That recommitment must begin now, for it was 60 years ago today, May 11, 1949, that Israel became a member of the UN. The UN cannot hope to achieve any measure of peace or justice as long as it condones war crimes, which it does every day that Israel is allowed to flout its terms of admission.

    The past cannot be undone, but the future can change. As its newly elected Secretary-General, I promise that the UN will no longer be a passive enabler of genocide. Therefore, I will ask the General Assembly to meet in special session at the earliest possible time to strip Israel of its membership.”

    This is stunning news. I still can’t believe it. Nor do I think anything can come of it except Mr Ban Ki-Moon’s quick removal from his post on grounds of “antisemitism” and/or insanity.

  8. We the American people are NOT Israel’s BITCH … Obama and Congress are.,..!

    F**K Israel
    Israel is NO Friend to America..!!

    Congressional members with dual American / Israeli Citizenships are TRAITORS, they need to be lined up against a wall and SHOT..!!

    Israel / Zionist Jews are the Blood Sucking Parasites of the World. They are nothing more then Leeches feeding on Humanity and sucking the life out of Mankind.
    The sooner this World is rid of them the better we all will be.

    “What’s the difference between an Israeli and a Catfish”?
    One’s a Scum Sucking Bottom Feeder and the others a Fish.

    “Die You Scum Bastards, Die”

  9. Zimbabalouie

    Oh what a tangled web we weave when it’s Jews we try to deceive. This excellent piece has heart, soul, and the genuine human emtion of compassion for all damaged by the Israeli hollow cause.

    The time has come to treat Israel as they treat the rest of the world. Since they persist in painting all of mankind with their anti-Semetic brush to ward off honest and well deserved criticism we need to use this tactic to deminish their bravado.

    Further since the world has been constantly accused of hating Jews for being Jewish we should collectively show them the hatred they cry about. The Jewish state of Israel and those who support this Marxist regime should be treated as the villians they are and denied any compassion, compensation, or credibility in the world.

    The time for the world to pull the iron fist from within the velvet glove has arrived and the contempteous child should receive that well deserved smack in the face thet they have coming.

    Of course that is my opinion and I could be wrong.

  10. I’m not Christian, Muslim, or Jewish, and I find all your bullshit really annoying, destructive, and counter to intelligent action.

    But it is funny to see how so many so-called “Christians”, be they Catholic, Lutheran, or whatever, appear to be completely neutered when the zionist parasites start with their unique brand of bullshit. You are so concerned with your material stations in life, that you pay lip service to you ‘faith’, talking the talk, but never EVER walking the walk. So many of you are moral cowards, afraid of rocking the boat.

    When it comes down to it, your respective religions are a true litmus test of your intelligence. Those who profess to hold the true ‘faith’ are the dumbest fuckers on the face of the planet, to coin a Gen. Franks phrase.

    Really, we would all be better off if the Christians, Jews, and Muslims LEARNED TO GROW THE FUCK UP.

  11. “if the Pope were to speak his mind bravely, as you seem to expect him to do, thousands of Catholic clergy would be at risk of losing their lives.”

    –Bring it on!

  12. ARTICLE: “The identity of the murderers went completely unmentioned,” Rabbi Yisrael Meir Lau, who heads the Yad Vashem Council, said in the daily Maariv.

    Yeah, right. Okay. The Pope should have mentioned those WWII murderers by name since none of us could have figured that one out otherwise. Yeah. Sure. Only the Pope had that information.

    ARTICLE: “All you had to do was to express regret. That’s all we wanted to hear,” wrote Hanoch Daum, a columnist for the Yedioth Ahronoth daily.

    Yeah? Guess what? You don’t always get what you want. You certainly don’t get what you deserve, so why would you expect anything else? Go home.

  13. “Thou shalt not kill…. Jews. Muslims are fair game and the occasional GOY types, as long as you don’t soil your hands on those heathens, but use something like an airliner to crash into their buildings.”

    Leading Israeli rabbi Ovadia Yosef (Shas party) called for the annihilation of Arabs in April 2001, not long before 9/11. “It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable,” he was quoted as saying in a sermon delivered on Monday to mark the Jewish festival of Passover.

    Jews seem to use their religious holidays as an excuse to bomb the hell out of someone or shoot up Gaza.
    Some god they worship, eh?

  14. The Israeli’s are defending their homeland from the atrocities committed by a people who, until about 100 years ago, did not exist. There is no such thing as a “Palestinian” and DEFINITELY no such thing as a Palestinian “State”.

    There has NEVER, in the history of the world, been a Palestinian State. The Levant has always been controlled by outside forces (Egypt, Roman, Ottoman Empire, British Mandate, etc.) but the “Palestinians” (aka Arabs who lived in constantly occupied land) never made a big stink about being “occupied” by those forces.

    It was not until the Jews showed up that they conveniently started a movement for “liberation” and to establish a “state” in “their” land, though it has never, ever, not even for a moment belonged to so-called Palestinians.

    Now, everyone says that Israeli soldiers are horrible monsters who do terrible things….but HAMAS bombing busses, schools, and other innocent targets is not condemned by any of you?

    Is that fair? Is it fair to condemn one side, but when “your” side does the same thing, it’s justified because “Jews are evil”?

    As for a Rabbi calling for the annihilation of Arabs…..do you ignore the PLO? Do you ignore the organizations that call for the destruction of all Jews everywhere, not just in Palestine?

    Thou shalt condemn the massacre of innocents….unless they’re Jews. No Jews are innocent.

    Is that the kind of thinking you people? I do not typically personally attack people who disagree with me. I usually get along very well with those who do….but the thinking espoused by many who post on this site is despicable. Some are cordial, but it is simply hiding a maniacal, irrational fear that is backed up by lies, conspiracy, and bad reason.

    If I said that Palestinian schoolboys kidnapped an Israeli school girl, with no affiliation to IDF or any government organization, raped her, skinned her, and then burned her body in the street….what would you say to that?

  15. Sorry bub, but Palestine has been around for at least 2,000 years, to deny their existence is just part of the craftily concocted Zionist BS that is being used to wipe Palestine off the map.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine

    It’s the Israeli’s that are the recent creation, as a vast majority of those who call themselves Jews and claiming to be descenants of the Hebrews are from eastern Europe, mostly Russia and Poland who have the Khazar DNA in the genes.

    When Israel shows it to be truly interested in peace, the world will finally breathe a sigh of relief.

    But the only peace Israel wants is: a “piece” of Jordan; a “piece” of Syria; a “piece” of Lebanon; a “piece” of Egypt; a “piece” of Iraq; a “piece” of Saudi Arabia; a “piece” of Turkey and whatever “pieces” are left after Israel finishes it’s genocidal extermination of the Palestinians.

  16. I never said Palestine didn’t exist, I said there is no such thing as a Palestinian. A “Palestinian” is a “leftover” Arab who lived in Palestine (which is the name of the land, also called the Levant), a territory that has always been occupied by outside sources, and never controlled by the “indigenous” people who lived there.

    Right, many of the Jews who returned there in the late ’40′s are a mixed breed. They are descendants of the Hebrews, and due to centuries of diaspora, many of them hail from Eastern Europe with some mix of Eastern European bloodlines. This is why I consider myself Russian/Slavic Jew. It is a modifier to distinguish my origins. I am not simply a “Jew” but a specific kind with a specific background and heritage.

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